Practice of the Practice with Joe Sanok episode 022 | An interview with Michael Wiles how to make $4-$5k in three days of speaking

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by Joseph R. Sanok

Practice of the Practice Podcast with Joe Sanok episode 022 | An interview with Michael Wiles how to make $4-$5k in three days


Everything you should have learned in grad school!

Joseph R. Sanok: Counselor, Private Practice Owner, Consultant, Marketing Expert, and Blogger

The Practice of the Practice Podcast: Everything you should have learned in grad school. Counseling | Private Practice | Marketing | Small Business

In this podcast I interview Michael Wiles a road warrior and speaker on Motivational Interviewing. He speaks throug hCross Country Education and talks all about speaking, marketing, and growing an income. He shares things that no one else will tell you!

What you will learn: 

  • The most important thing a young counselors should know.
  • How to start feeling and actually being successful.
  • What Cross Country Education looks for in speakers.
  • How to get paid to travel.
  • The structure that brings in $4,000-$5,000 in three days.
  • What every experienced counselor may want to consider instead of retirement.
  • What every counselor in America needs to know about speaking engagements.

Things Mentioned in this Podcast

The FREE Practice of the Practice E-newsletter| It now has a daily tip for the first week

My October 2013 Monthly Income Report | It helped me sort through some priorities 



Silence is Sexy

DJ Spooky

Michael Wiles’ Recommendations

Cross Country Education | Who Michael does his speaking engagements through

Michael’s website for church leadership and tools 

Things Joe Mentioned

HPSO Insurance

GarageBand for iPad

Here’s what I use for my recordings.


My 2012 Client Survey 

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Joseph R. Sanok, MA, LLP, LPC, NCC is a licensed counselor and owner of Mental Wellness Counseling in Traverse City, MI. What have you learned from these podcasts? Will you comment below or email Joe?

To link to Joe’s Google+ follow the link.


Photo by Charleston’s Digital, thanks!



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