Practice of the Practice Podcast 007 | What are you worth? An awesome interview with consultant, professor, and private practice guru Dr. Cindi Briggs.

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by Joseph R. Sanok

As I’m working on this the Oscars are on and they’re doing the 007 tribute for the 50th anniversary. I realize that this won’t be posted for another month, but pretty awesome that this is episode 007 and I’m listening to “Live and Let Die,” while working on podcast 007!



Joseph R. Sanok: Counselor, Private Practice Owner, Marketing Expert, and Blogger

The Practice of the Practice Podcast: Counseling | Private Practice | Blogging | Small Business

In this podcast I talk with Dr. Cyndi Briggs about money. She shares how to grow consulting gigs and your practice fees. Also she discusses how to find balance, something we counselors often have a difficult time doing.

In this episode you will learn:

  • How to become a consultant to corporations.
  • Finding balance between money and life outside of counseling.
  • Inspiration from a lady that is awesome!
  • Tips, advice, and ways to continue to grow your counseling private practice

Links and Items Mentioned in this Podcast



These are things that we discussed in the interview or that Dr. Cyndi Briggs thinks would help you. Most of these are books/resources that Dr. Cyndi Briggs think are great, ones that I want to read soon. If you love/hate/grow from them, please submit a comment below:

Mental Wellness Parenting | A remarkably simple approach to making parenting easier

Book Description

Mental Wellness Counseling | A remarkably simple approach to making parenting easier is the book that you should have been given after you left the hospital. You already have many of the skills in this book, it is just learning how to reapply them to make life easier. Joseph R. Sanok is a counselor, therapist, father, and lover of life.

Here’s how he frames the conversation:

“This all started when I wouldn’t go to bed. I wanted to watch the train go by our house and stay up for Fraggle Rock. I was four. My father, a psychologist, and my mother, a nurse, knew that sleep was tied to brain development and behavior. Also I’m sure they wanted some alone time. They started a sticker chart for me to ‘earn something from the store.’ for more, follow the above link.

Callings: Finding and Following an Authentic Life

Book description

How do we know if we’re following our true callings? How do we sharpen our senses to cut through the distractions of everyday reality and hear the calls that are beckoning us?

is the first book to examine the many kinds of calls we receive and the great variety of channels through which they come to us. A calling may be to do something (change careers, go back to school, have a child) or to be something (more creative, less judgmental, more loving). While honoring a calling’s essential mystery, this book also guides readers to ask and answer the fundamental questions that arise from any calling: How do we recognize it? How do we distinguish the true call from the siren song? How do we handle our resistance to a call? What happens when we say yes? What happens when we say no?

Soloing: Realizing Your Life’s Ambition

Book description

Soloing has two meanings: “going it alone” and being “complete in yourself.” . . . But you don’t just leave–a company/a career/a paycheck–and cross over to a more satisfying life. There’s more to it. There is a mysterious passage to be negotiated, a delicate transition required to go from alone-in-the-desert to complete-in-yourself.

Harriet Rubin, bestselling author of The Princessa: Machiavelli for Women, returns with inspiring advice for professionals dreaming of crossing over from a corporate world of prescribed boundaries to the limitless opportunities of soloing. She describes how people can do great things–things they would never be able to accomplish inside the corporate structure–when they manage or lead no one.

Dr. Cyndi Briggs’ Happenings

If you are not following and keeping up with Cyndi, you’re missing out! She has some great projects, ideas, and resources. Here is what she’s working on:
Her class at Sawtooth in spring that she referenced | ART-emis Unleashed: Reclaiming Yourself at Mid-Life


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Joseph R. Sanok, MA, LLP, LPC, NCC is a licensed counselor and owner of Mental Wellness Counseling in Traverse City, MI. Also, he is a consultant to counselors in private practice and loves what he does! What have you learned from these podcasts? Will you comment below or email Joe? If you want to take your private practice to the next level, check out the paid e-newsletter subscription.

To link to Joe’s Google+ follow the link.



Thank you to Aaron VanHeest for the awesome photos!